Interview with Walter Crump by Fern Nesson
On my pictures.
I was born in Winston-Salem, North Carolina in 1941 and I lived there until I was 18. I was somewhat withdrawn and a rebel, I guess you might say. When all my friends were going off to college, I just didn't want to do it., I think that if I had lived a little later, I would have just gone to California and lived in Haight-Ashbury. But that wasn't an option so I joined the Navy.
In the Navy, I had plenty of time to read and pursue other interests. When I came back home, I went to Guilford College in North Carolina for two years, and again got bored with school. Two of my friends, Ed Lee Oliver and Frank Carlton were headed for Boston so I went there with them.
In Boston, to make some money, I agreed to model for art classes. Through modeling, I got to know some of the professors and teachers. I had always drawn as a young kid. I was encouraged by a great Aunt and my mother. The more I modeled, the more I just had this urge to draw and I asked some of the teachers if I could draw in their classes. So I'd model in one class and draw in next class. They just sort of made room for me and gave me encouragement. After about the fifth class, I really begin to get a form that I liked.
The next year I enrolled in Boston University Art School. After I got my BFA, I took a job as a replacement teacher for painting and printmaking at the Commonwealth School. Printmaking was on the fourth floor and drawing and painting was on the first floor. Often I taught both courses at the same time, running up and down the stairs, exhausted. Finally I told the headmaster, that I could not go on like this and he hired a painting & drawing teacher, while I continued to teach printmaking. In 1984, I agreed to teach photography as well. I had never been in a darkroom and for the first three years the students pretty much taught the technique side of the course while I learned. The more I watched and observed what the kids were doing, and tried it myself, the more interested I got. Photography presented me with a new vision and a challenge that was inspiring and exciting, So I took beginning courses at the Worchester Crafts Center in Zone photography (Is this right ??– I took courses at the Worchester Art center and studied Zone photography), Zone photography is, in the Ansel Adams tradition , the use of creative metering to obtain a full spectrum negative (I changed this, but I am not sure it adds anything, what do you think?). We were taught to pay a lot of attention to metering, to preconceive your image before you even take it.
Then one day, all my photography equipment was stolen from my car. Since I knew I would not get my cameras back right away, I decided to make pinhole cameras.(which may have caused Ansel to turnover in his grave). At first, I used large cylinders which I cut in half, These were cardboard Sona tubes, that they use to make cement pillars. This appealed to my basic male- kid-thing of model airplane making. I liked constructing the cameras in a very sort of low-tech way, without any drawings or plans though sometimes I stuck on little shaky eyes and crusted paint and things like that
The early cameras were very basic, a cylinder with a cap on it, taped together either with masking tape or silver aluminum tape. They were a kind of aesthetic trash. I didn't think too much about how they looked merely how they worked. I put a handle on them so I could carry them. When people saw them, they didn’tknow what to make of them.
I remember once, I was carrying a bunch of cameras around. And some guys who were just starting on the Big Dig walked by. "What are those? The plans for the Big Dig?" I said, "No." I said, "They're pinhole cameras." And one guy said, "I remember making one in high school, in physics class." And we had this wonderful conversation about pinhole cameras. This kind of underground experience in art, often prompts really interesting connections on the street.
And after a while, I began to find a kind of a pinhole camera that worked for me. Recently I have been treating pinhole cameras as assemblages, collaging on fragments of old photographs, kitschy ribbons and almost anything else I can find.
(I changed this - original……making them from almost anything I can find)
Although the range of my work since that time has been very eclectic, this book focuses on my pinhole photographs. I have done several series of pinhole photographs: the Troll series, taken beneath bridges; the ” Through Fences." series and the "From the Ground Series, shot by putting the pinhole down on an object that exists in the environment and just seeing what happens.
The tradition and concept of the camera obscura or pinhole camera dates back to China 5,000 years ago. A Chinese philosopher/writer/poet had a room that had a hole in it, and no windows. One day he saw the city projected upside down on the opposite wall and was dumbfounded. And so he wrote these wonderful, probing kind of poetic reminiscences about how this happened, and a kind of scientific treatise about what happens with the light. Later on another Chinese philosopher picked up on this, and did some experiments
with it.
From then on the camera obscura concept winds through art history. Da Vinci talks about it a bit. In the Renaissance, pinholes were used by artists, to organize three-dimensional imagery onto a two-dimensional surface.
In a traditional camera, the lens converges light to a very minute point on the film plane and only that point is in focus. And as you move further out from the film plane, backwards and forwards, that point becomes more of a circle of light than it does a point and the focus blurs. This is how we get depth of field. It is the way our eyes work, as well although we’re not aware that we're looking at most of the world out of focus because our brains put everything back in focus. But if I stare at one thing, peripherally everything will be soft and out-of-focus.
A pinhole camera works differently. The image it creates is in focus from (the omit?) very, very close up to (the omit?) very, very distant (infinity). The trade off is that a pinhole image is softer than that of a lens camera. A pinhole sends a little cylinder or a wire of light through a pinhole. It doesn't converge at all and doesn't reach the point of focus of refinement that a lens does. A very small cylinder of light touches the film plane which gives a softer image than a traditional camera . The pinhole is made by using a needle to drill a hole through a piece of very fine brass or aluminum. And you can get different sized needles, or have different sized pinholes, depending on the distance of your pinhole to the film plane.
Another pinhole quality is that it compresses time. Using a traditional camera, the shot is instantaneous and you catch just a minute slice of life. Exposures from a pinhole camera occur over time, it is a film on a two dimensional surface so that it melds concepts we often separate into one category or another.
To me, Pinhole is attractive because it is intuitive, beyond the mathematics and physics of lens-making. Some pinhole photographers love the science of pinhole, they seek to get the exact quality of a lens camera, but I am impressionistic.
If I make a small camera, I use a small needle. If I make a big camera, I use a bigger needle. I like experimenting, and not knowing quite how it will come out?
Everything I do is a controlled accident. I don't want to be in perfect control. I am an artist not a scientist. I find adventure in the discovery that happens along the way. The art is allowing for accidents and making use of them.
I'm always looking at things that don't quite work wondering how to make use of them. It’s like John Cage who said that “If he heard something that didn’t sound beautiful, he’d wait a while listen to it again, and it would sound beautiful."
I question the idea of right and wrong in art. I'm not against all traditions that can be kind of a dogma in itself. But I think when one is open-ended, seeking the unexpected, it's not a mistake; it's a door to something new.
This is why I love pinhole. First of all, you don't have a viewfinder. You don't have a light meter. You have nothing that tells you what's happening. And when you use a cylinder you don't know exactly what needle size to use, because some of the negative is really close to the pinhole and part of it is far away. The light comes in through a little hole into the tube and it exposes differentially around the cylinder.
This doesn’t happen with a regular camera, because it has to have a film plane to focus on. A pinhole is in focus all along the line. Something can be close on the film plane, and something else could be far away, but you'd get pretty much the same exposure time, same focus.
Another esoteric thing about a pinhole cylinder (camera) is that when the light goes through the pinhole (lens), it hits the back pretty much as a circle. As it moves around to the side, that circle becomes an ellipse. So you get imagery that is warped and bent. A pinhole changes imagery into something unexpected. It mythologizes an image or puts it in another realm. When you look at it there's a familiarity to it, but also a newness, or unexpected quality.
I choose specific subjects for pinhole as well. I drive around the city, looking for little nests of places. Sometimes these are grandiose buildings but for the most part, they're back alleyways, hidden places in the city . These places that might just seem to anybody else, mundane. Sometimes they're very intimate places, close up, and other times, they're vistas. I choose things that I think that the pinhole will warp in an interesting way.
For example, my fences series lends themselves to kind of an unexpected way of seeing the world. You have this fence close up and then the distance, that is also in focus. There's a kind of interesting dichotomy between these two scenes. Any time I see a fence, I think, what's behind the fence and why is it there to keep me out?.
I'm more attracted to old run-down parts (areas?) of the city. Places I'm drawn to contain buildings that are over 100 years old: parts of the South End; lots of South Boston, along the waterfront. The older the better. It dovetails with my appreciation 19th century photography. I like nineteenth photographers whose work has an ethereal quality like Nepice exposing a street of Paris from his window all day, or maybe two days. The photo showed an empty street in busy Paris, because nothing stayed there that long. And it's very contrasty, and it's almost not there because it has faded over time.
Unlike a traditional camera, I’ve only one shot, exposing one paper negative at a time in the pinhole camera, then its back to my studio to reload or develop the negative. Unlike film, I cannot do a whole lot of manipulation of the paper negative. With film, you can manipulate the contrast but not a paper negative. (I changed this around some) ,
Instead I do a lot of manipulation of the print. I often take it out of the developer and wash it off before it's fixed. And therefore, all the silver in the developer is still active. Sometimes I paint (with) developer to give a border to the piece. I sometimes atomize developer or fixer on the piece, again to add a kind of compositional element, or give it a sense of having aged, or something like that. Also, by leaving it out, the unexposed areas, the white areas, turn yellow. And when you develop it, it turns kind of a yellowish orange, and when you fix it, it turns yellowish-ochre.
I've also done something, very capricious. Once in a while, it works. I'll take it out of the developer, and sandwich three or four prints together, put them on a piece of cardboard that is also saturated with developer, put it in a black plastic light tight bag, I try to do this just up to the point where the gelatin begins to deteriorate Over time, it silverizes, and the two images stuck together create all of this kind of nuance of texture are created And one out of 10 works as a composite image, It's a little bit daunting sometimes.
I haven't quite decided if I really like it or not. But it’s a type of accident that allows something else, some kind of chemical processes beyond my control, to make the image.
Once it's fixed, I wash it for a long time, hang them up to dry. Then, I may work for three, six months producing a number of images from various negatives. I set up my darkroom with a series of toners with four or five different toners and a bleach bath. And then I just play with them.
Bleaching is like painting in reverse. Instead of adding, you're removing. It (can be) scary, because when you make a mark, with bleach on a brush (painting the bleach on with a brush), you don't see exactly what happens. And then when you fix it, it goes away even more, so you have to kind of preconceive what might happen.
Finally I tone them. I’m always looking for a combination that I haven't come across, that produces an unexpected quality. There is an excitement and joy when something magical happens. I'm not sure what that more is, but I think that's what probably drives me as an artist to continue working.
It possible to ruin a print by too much fiddling around. From one negative, I may print six or seven prints. After I've toned them, I may have two or three that “work”.
My prints are unique. I don’t do editions. I find this a much more exciting way to work. It’s monotonous to print 30 prints of the something. I guess you could say I’m
obsessive-compulsive; I like the convoluted process of this. I think part of my focus on accidents comes from being dyslexic, and therefore seeing the world in an unusual way
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